Thursday, September 1, 2011
Korean Bus Incident (Jim Crow)
I don't really read Korean news so I didn't hear about the incident until one of my posters made a comment about it. I understand how he feels and old Koreans are the worst at taking liberties with people(Ask a Korean person what they think of grandma and grandpa). But, old boy was out of pocket. He should have responded once with the most derogatory Korean phrase he could muster and let that be that. He was wrong for trying to bully that old man and he is going to pay the cost. Now rape in Korea is worth about 5,000 usd and since this was a mild physical assault of a Korean national by a Black foreign teacher, he'll pay about 5,000 and be deported. I would suggest he just pull a runner. Mail all your shit back to your home and then take the train to Busan. From there get on that slow boat to Fukuoka and then decide what you want to do next. You want to avoid the airports just in case they put a hold on your passport.
I like all the somewhat racist commentary on the videos and the blog sites I saw. Multiculturalism leading to feral bus riders from America being brought to Korea.
This seems to be a referendum on all Black Americans which is funny to me because when those white boys were running a dope ring out of Seoul nobody said shit about white people. When that grandmother was beating the shit out of that little kid peole didn't call elderly Koreans animals. But with Black people our margin of error seems to be a lot lower and if we slip it is an indictment of all of us.
Here is a post i wrote nearly two years ago about Korea
http://blackboyinkimchiland.blogspot.com/2009/12/jim-crow-korea-style.html
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You should have seen the comments on Youtube. People demonizing the entire African-American community for this dude's action. I guess it is in people's nature to act tough when they know that they are within the safety net of their own kind/home. Fucking keyboard warriors.
ReplyDeleteYoutube is like a Klan rally so I never read comments there. I'm talking about the "reputable" k-blogs. They couldn't wait to throw in their half-baked racial theories.
ReplyDeleteDo you think the brother snapped because of daily bullshit and non-sense got the best of him?
ReplyDeleteHe might have been crazy as catshit to begin with but you deal with enough shit in Korea as a foreigner and as a Black person to spazz out on them definitely. I have many stories I never even bothered to post about my treatment in Korea. Go back and read that Jim Crow post. I could have just as easily been involved in some shit.
ReplyDeleteHe's out of pocket for that. I can't support acting like that but you gotta get that stuff off your chest when it happens.
ReplyDeleteThat's been building up in him for a minute, time for him to go home.
Perhaps. Sometimes you have to have the patience of JOB. My problem was the man is smaller and older so you temper your response. If it was a young man telling him to shut up and he smashed him I would have given the old Kanye shrug. But fighting an old man on top of an older woman was just all kind of fail.
ReplyDeleteYou gotta do something about that stress before it come to this point. Time for the brother to go home.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I understand, the old man told him to "shut up" in English, followed up with "ni-ga something something" in Korean which meant "you (ni-ga) sit there/here". The black guy interpreted it as "Shut up, nigga something something" which he probably though of as more racial insults in Korean.
ReplyDeleteThat's why he keeps on telling him how he shut him up and I think he mentioned at 1:06-8 "I'm in your montherfucking grill, nigga." He's basically using shut up and nigga back at him b/c that's what he thinks the old man understands, as well as keseki.
One of the Korean guys who was on the bus wrote on his blog that this tirade lasted for 20 minutes and he was so afraid that he almost cried b/c he thought this man would kill everyone on the bus!!!
So much for language barrier. Where can I find that blog?
ReplyDeleteThe Black man cracked. Simple as that. Can't condone it but I understand it. This K asshole would just about lose his life outside his own country if he started that shit elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteBlacks in the US had police dogs set on them and firehoses used against them in the 60s and before for merely peacefully demonstrating against being treated like animals or less than animals. They were expected to have endless tolerance for nazi behaviour.
The expectyation of endless tolerance still exists. I'm white but I am glad that old asshole got some payback tho the payback was over the top.
"I'm white but I am glad that old asshole got some payback tho the payback was over the top."
ReplyDeleteLOL Payback for what? Did Koreans did this to blacks: (your quote) "Blacks in the US had police dogs set on them and firehoses used against them in the 60s and before for merely peacefully demonstrating against being treated like animals or less than animals. They were expected to have endless tolerance for nazi behaviour."
So you're white and you agree with some "payback" for past racism. I'm all for it, as long as your face is at the receiving end b/c I (nor my family going back to dozens of generations) had nothing to do with racism against blacks. I'm a naturalized American and I was born in Belarus; my people never colonized/conquered anyone.
But in racist AmeriKKKa I'm somehow guilty b/c I have blond hair and blue eyes b/c of what West Europeans did and unfortunately we kind of look the same. So don't push your guilt-trip on all "white" people or project it to Koreans who had nothing to do with black slavery and trade in the first place.
^Mike, come on!?! You are stretching things and connecting points where there are no connections...
ReplyDeleteWhen did I mention 'the nefarious Negroes who are pushing white guilt on you for slavery?' Nowhere!
I was responding to a guy above me who claimed to be white and who happened to be glad that the black guy got some "pay-back" on a Korean man.. and if you read into his post, the payback was for past injustices Blacks got here in the States.
So I have beef with him because Belarusians never colonized anyone in Africa nor did the Koreans (and that's why I find his post unfair). Yet the 'white' guy here is applauding Afro-American guy getting some payback for racism in America in Korea against Korean man (or his ancestors) who had nothing to do with :"police dogs set on them and firehoses used against them in the 60s and before for merely peacefully demonstrating against being treated like animals or less than animals."
As for "I would talk about all the privilege a naturalized white citizen enjoys over a Black citizen."
That's not why I commented. I DO think as a naturalized white I do have more privileges over a Black man whose ancestors have been in this country for over 6+ generations, but it's not really my fault, is it? The casino has bent the pocker game into my favor, but am I guilty b/c I'm a new guy who just sat at the table?"
I came to US when I was ten. The first American who helped my family was a black guy in Chicago who helped us to get to our right terminal b/c we didn't speak any English. To me he was just a man.
The first black guy I saw in my life was a US marine at the US embassy in Moscow when my family were getting permission to come to US. I was staring at him and he used his flashlight to 'play' with me. Maybe he thought I was looking at him b/c he was black. I looked at him b/c he looked different: uniform, camo, rifle, etc. I've never seen a soldier before. I had no racial concept at that time. I went to middle and high schools were only about 10% of the students were white; most were Asian b/c I live in Bay Area. I knew they looked different from me but I didn't compartmentalize them into something else. I only became aware of racial consciousness when I was in 10th grade.
Guess where that came from? Perhaps it's the same place where Taiwanese/Koreans and other Asians have negative stereotypes of Blacks, even though they have never met them in their lives = US media/'news'/movies/and most importantly INTERNET.
IMO, at this time only perhaps Central Asian countries like Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, etc. have not yet been penetrated by US media/INTERNET to spread the US stereotypes around. What's worse, once the stereotypes get spread around, there are no Black people in those countries to counter them BEFORE they arrive and faced with racist hostility!
My point is, Mike, unlike Korea, there are no military US bases in Taiwan. The Taiwanese had no significant exposure to Blacks (soldiers). Aside form natural preference for white skin (you don't work in the field), where do you think they have learned to be prejudiced against blacks?
Think about it:
http://blackboyinkimchiland.blogspot.com/2011/08/shitty-industry.html
http://blackboyinkimchiland.blogspot.com/2011/06/day-in-my-life.html
I understand what you are saying but what exactly am I supposed to do with that level of bigotry? How do you think it makes me feel? Maybe after a thousand low level slights I will lash out at the next Taiwanese person I meet. Because the reality is they are judging me off of things they haven't experienced while i'm judging them on my very real interactions. And btw I like the Taiwanese better than Koreans.
ReplyDeletewww.stickmanweekly.com has an article/opinion on being involved with a local in a confrontational manner and the likely outcome.
ReplyDeleteNot unlike Korea.
You guys are all wrong. What happened was that the old lady said for him to take a seat in korean but the korean word has a sound like n***. the brotha misinterpreted as her calling him n***. this led to the confrontation. he overreacted and looked like a fool in the process instead of asking the lady what she said.
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